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MESSAGE FROM: psychohistory@topica.com

dc: for a very interesting take on the current situation (and situations like it in history) see the psychohistory list. how to subscribe at the bottom.

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So, the proposed war against Iraq is a family
feud? We should go to war to
even things up personally for George Bush, and
avenge a non-death, with
hundreds of deaths of Americans and iraqi’s. I
cannot buy that. Dorothy

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82322688

September 30, 2002 § Leave a comment

MESSAGE FROM: psychohistory@topica.com

dc: for a very interesting take on the current situation (and situations like it in history) see the psychohistory list. how to subscribe at the bottom.

quoting

So, the proposed war against Iraq is a family
feud? We should go to war to
even things up personally for George Bush, and
avenge a non-death, with
hundreds of deaths of Americans and iraqi’s. I
cannot buy that. Dorothy

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Hear the ‘eloquent scream’ | csmonitor.com

dc:That sense of d骠 vu I experienced at the Washington protest was prompted by the steps the Justice Department has taken during the year since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. As I listened to speakers rail against recent attacks on civil liberties such as secret trials, the use of material witness statutes as a form of preventive detention, and the refusal to allow US citizens arrested as “enemy combatants” to see their lawyers or challenge their detention before a civilian judge, I was suddenly sad.
Our leaders are supposed to know that, in the long run, secret detentions and trials don’t encourage confidence in government; they discourage it. And if prolonged, those policies brew mistrust. And leaders should know that profiling specific populations only makes those groups feel more threatened and pushes them further away from the rest of us.

dc:what is missing from the 911 discussion is any analysis of the relationship of US actions taken to increasing or reducing the actual threats. Instead of a very tightly targeted campaign (which still took time to document the need for) against bin laden and associates, we spread the net out to anyone they talked to, made the network, al quaeda, much more of a noun than the adjective it was created to be, and then replaced targeting with “you are with us or against us” . Since the Bush predidency in someways defines “US” as a very limited segment of the U.S. – right wing christian fundamentalism for one, and hard assed parental posturing for another – we end up with nearly everyone feeling threatened.

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Hear the ‘eloquent scream’ | csmonitor.com

dc:That sense of d骠 vu I experienced at the Washington protest was prompted by the steps the Justice Department has taken during the year since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. As I listened to speakers rail against recent attacks on civil liberties such as secret trials, the use of material witness statutes as a form of preventive detention, and the refusal to allow US citizens arrested as “enemy combatants” to see their lawyers or challenge their detention before a civilian judge, I was suddenly sad.
Our leaders are supposed to know that, in the long run, secret detentions and trials don’t encourage confidence in government; they discourage it. And if prolonged, those policies brew mistrust. And leaders should know that profiling specific populations only makes those groups feel more threatened and pushes them further away from the rest of us.

dc:what is missing from the 911 discussion is any analysis of the relationship of US actions taken to increasing or reducing the actual threats. Instead of a very tightly targeted campaign (which still took time to document the need for) against bin laden and associates, we spread the net out to anyone they talked to, made the network, al quaeda, much more of a noun than the adjective it was created to be, and then replaced targeting with “you are with us or against us” . Since the Bush predidency in someways defines “US” as a very limited segment of the U.S. – right wing christian fundamentalism for one, and hard assed parental posturing for another – we end up with nearly everyone feeling threatened.

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Here is a link to a very intersting graphical representation of poverty in the world. No real news, but helpful reminder nicely done.

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Here is a link to a very intersting graphical representation of poverty in the world. No real news, but helpful reminder nicely done.

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September 30, 2002 § 1 Comment

dc: will the rising curve of criticism of Bush be matched by a rising curve of intimidation? Iraq may, by rejecting inspection changes, force the question into new unknown territory. Those who oppose Bush need to answer the question: what should be done with rogue states? (oif which Isreal and the US are modest in some ways in compariosn to some others, but not free and clear of charges).

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